Bonjour !

Je ne parle pas italien. J'espère que des modélistes Italiens parlent français !

Je suis passionné par les wagons poches-torpilles (Torpedo ladle cars, Torpedopfannenwagen) et je cherche les plans et des photos des wagons en service chez ILVA-RIVA (Genova).

Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ? Merci beaucoup !

Christophe


Hello !

I don't speak Italian ! So, I sincerly hope that some Italian modelers speak English !

I am a French steel industry railways enthusiast especially interested with torpedo ladle cars. So, I am looking for scaled-drawings and picture about torpedo ladle cars which are used in ILVA-RIVA stell plan (Genova).

Someone could help me ?

Thanks a lot!

Christophe


Hallo,

Ich spreche kein Italienisch. Ich hohhe dass jemand Deutsch sprechen kann ! Ich bin ein Französische Stahlindustrie Eisenbahnamateur, und besonders interessiert für Torpedopfannenwagen. So, ich suche Zeichnungen und Bilder über ILVA-RIVA Torpedopfannenwagen.

Kann Jemand mir helfen ?

Vielen Dank !

Christophe

Hi Christophe

I have no drawings, I own only a picture of same torpedos ladle cars working in Trieste at the local cast iron factory.

Let me know if you like a scan of these picture and send me your e mail address to:

rbrdnl@libero.it

Best regards.

Daniele

Questi possono andare come elaborazione ?

Bellissimi, Andrea, ma poi quelle viti tra i binari le togli, vero?
Ciao, Fabrizio.

E' forse l'unico modello Lima acquistato da mio fratello, verso il 1970,se lo trovo domani lo fotografo e vedo d'inserire la foto.

Andrea, stichazzi!

questo tipo di scatola l'avete gia' vista?

Ciao Max,
grazie delle foto del tuo splendido esemplare anni sessanta.

A presto.

Guido.

grazie a te,la confezione risale agli anni 60?

Si, ma questa è così ben tenuta che sembra essere uscita ieri dal negozio

Sì , tranquillo , non ci sono già più...la foto è di qualche mese fà....
Andrea

E ce l'hai una foto dell'altoforno completo?
La cosa si fa molto interessante! E bella.
Grazie, Fabrizio.

Hello !

I would like to answer to andreachef.

First, congratulations for such a very nice picture !

I just wanted to say that the heat retention cover doesn't open like a "door".

In fact, this a system with compressed air : first, a vertical air compressed jack lifts up the cover and second, an other air compressed jack make it "slide" forward to the mechanism cab (very hard to explain in English !).

You have to remark that the opening mecanism is fixed ON the ladle and turns with it.

It will be different on the 150 ton capacity model : the mechanism will be fixed on the wagon itself.

This car was built by CAFL (Compagnie des Forges et Aciéries de la Loire, St-Chamond) in 1969. It was able to carry 100 ton of molten iron. The full loaded car weight 214 tons (21.4 tons per axle), so it was allowed to run on SNCF tracks.

It was no used from years, replaced by 14 axle 150 capacity torpedoes.


As I discovered this forum, I was very surprised by the success of this old Lima car !

To conclude, I have to say that if this care is roughly detailed, is perfectly reduced to HO scale. You have just to low the frames on the bogies.

See you soon !

Christophe